Found this lovely Nevada news article. A dad doesn't like his daughter's boyfriend and asks him to leave the property. Boyfriend refuses. Dad shoots him dead. Fabulous. The anti-gun people are going to get so up in arms over this case. Having been pretty unclear over our location before except for saying the desert I will say we are in southern Nevada AND news like this makes me mad. It gets the entire area riled up over gun rights. As it is we finally made some headway over some stupid permit rules requiring you to qualify with every semi-auto you plan to carry concealed. If you wanted to carry it you had to bring it in and pass a shoot test. However revolvers were considered one thing so you only had to qualify with 1 revolver. That was recently changed so now we only need one qualifier for semi-auto and 1 qualifier for revolver. Soooooo back to topic. Here OC is not a good idea especially in the cities. Police have a shoot first ask questions later mentality. If it is a gun on a person it must mean that person is a criminal bent on wickedness so we better shoot them. I swear we have an officer involved shooting once a week just in Las Vegas. The surrounding areas aren't a ton better. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
**Another article, this one from the major paper of the area. I found the comments to be interesting. This one is very much going to create ripples for the area. I also want to say that if my post seems in anyway heartless it is not meant to be so. Maybe my feelings aren't displayed well but just from the facts given it seems that the dad used the fact that he told the boyfriend to leave and he didn't as an excuse to use deadly force. He used the fact that he could technically call him a trespasser as a reason to shoot. Not knowing anything but the slim details given it looks like stone cold murder that he hoped to hide behind trespassing. That is what makes me mad. We are not a Castle Doctrine state though prosecution is rare when the resident has cause to use deadly force. This still doesn't seem to fall into that type of scenario.
** More details. This case is looking horrible.
Thursday, August 18, 2011
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Good post, but I can't help but wonder what the REST of the story is... It didn't indicate this guy had a CCW, nor where the gun came from.
ReplyDeleteI know. That's why I plan to watch for more info. I still imagine it is going to be used to send people up in arms. Any other area of the state is very firearm friendly which is why we have OC without a permit and fairly decent permit requirements. BUT southern Nevada is a very different beast. Two area cities have tried to ban weapons and passed ordinances to that effect but were told that state law trumps them. Clark Country requires not only a CCW but a Blue Card of the handgun you are carrying to show proof you are the registered owner of that weapon. It is nuts. We had a case recently of a man terrorizing his wife and about killing her. He had her feet off the floor choking her and refused police orders to step away. Less lethal methods did nothing and he was shot and killed. The wife freaked out on police and said they reacted with excessive force and all the area news latched on to that aspect of it. So even when they react decently cops here are vilified. Uggg....
ReplyDeleteThis shouldn't be about guns; it should be about a cold-blooded murderer. He'd have used the opportunity to kill with any weapon he had. I'd be surprised if the murder charges were dropped. Let us know.
ReplyDeleteFrom what little there is here to read, he would go to prison even in a Castle Doctrine state. Even here in Texas I would expect someone to go down if that was the true scenario. If it's someone you know, it's A. ask someone to leave, then B. call the cops. No gun enters the scenario unless they are a threat. However, as NFO said this isn't a complete story by any means.
ReplyDeleteSuz you are so right. The focus should be on the murder. Even the comments on the articles are going for the gun though. Very frustrating. When we go back in session a castle law is supposed to go up. I bet this will be used agaist despite it very obviously having nothing close to do with castle laws. Grrrr..... Feel really bad for everyone involved. They need to be the focus.
ReplyDeleteA suggestion (nothing more), would be for any gun-rights and gun-owners to be proactive and send emails to various outlets (newspapers, etc.) saying basically, "As gun-owners and gun-rights activists, we know the laws of our state and localities, and based on what we have heard, this appears to be the misuse of a firearm." I.e., in the best way you can think of, disown this person's actions. It might help, maybe.
ReplyDeleteVery great suggestions. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteLast night there were reports done with a defender of the the shooter. This case is absolutely shaping up to be about sides and pointing fingers. Yet still no one really knows anything.
When the whole story is out it may not turn out to be as egregious as it sounds at first blush.
ReplyDeleteI really am wondering what the whole deal is. I know what our media will latch on to. Pretty surprised only 1 station ran the theft of 22 guns from a local shop but all are latching on to the brutality of this gun violence. Yeah one reporter said that. Uggg.....
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